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58. "Reciprocity of Being"
What does “Ascension” mean to you? How can we be in Reciprocity of Being? What do aligned relationships look like? Georgia and I dig deep into the life questions and make plans to explore further in “I Wonder What…?”
Transcript
Georgia (00:00):
I mean, the most important thing to me probably for the first time in my life is me. Can I close with a few words? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are words that I just chose to write down that you and I both said are mostly you. Four nine. Okay. Unshackling, decide what is true. I wonder what a flat
Lezley (00:35):
Map.
Georgia (00:38):
Timeless in curries, which wound check the ground spot, the spiritual leaders, high priestess, vocation. I don't have to explain. Loving inclusion, fear lands back. That's all I got down there.
Lezley (01:06):
That's super powerful though.
Georgia (01:09):
Yeah.
Lezley (01:11):
Huh?
Georgia (01:12):
Yeah. It's another way.
Lezley (01:14):
This keeps coming up and I keep wanting to have someone to have these conversations with and invite people on to talk. Is that something you want to do?
Georgia (01:23):
I'm doing it right now, but I'm doing it with creative art professionals and we are making art whatever project we're working on, but I sort of build a little bit of a framework, but listen, if it's safety, meaning one of my things is only having my energy around authentic people, people who can set their own healthy boundaries, especially when in relationship with others.
Lezley (01:57):
Right, right. Yeah.
Georgia (01:58):
So I'm open to it. Absolutely.
Lezley (02:00):
Absolutely. Are you doing a podcast? I was thinking about it in a podcast format like this, where if you find someone that's really like, yes, this is really inspiring me. Hey, come on our
Georgia (02:14):
Podcast. Okay. I'm open to that because, and I say that not because I wouldn't like to have my own podcast, but I can't have everything. I am now in that place of actually asking for help, actually reaching out for those energies that there's a resonance and there's a kind of purpose behind it. So yeah, let's do it.
Lezley (02:40):
Yeah. Okay.
Georgia (02:41):
I'm open and I already have somebody in mind, but
Lezley (02:45):
Really?
Georgia (02:46):
Yeah. Same finding Avalon. She's quite Okay, cool. Yeah.
Lezley (02:52):
I'm going to have to check her out,
Georgia (02:53):
Check her out, check her out, and we can do this together. What we just did today and at other times, if you have the time to put towards it, because I'm reading it right now as a bit of a spiritual direction session. I have a spiritual director, which it's interesting to, oh, we'll get into that sometime. Yeah, we'll get into that.
Lezley (03:23):
Yeah. Listen, I work so hard at getting this stuff out there. No one cares right now. No one gives a shit about what I'm saying.
Georgia (03:33):
That's okay. That's just the initial stages. I feel that, but remember, since I've known you, you've always worked hard. You've always done multiple things to get to a thing. Peeling onions.
Lezley (03:50):
Yeah.
Georgia (03:51):
Multiple things to get to a thing.
Lezley (03:53):
Multiple. So of you, that's how you work multiple things to get to a thing. Yes. It's like we gather up all the pebbles to build a step, to gather up more pebbles, to build a step
Georgia (04:09):
So you know that the ascension is happening, even if we don't feel it or see it from outside.
Lezley (04:16):
Okay. Here's a question. What do you think that is?
Georgia (04:19):
What do you
Lezley (04:19):
Think the ascension is? Yeah, what do you think it is?
Georgia (04:23):
Well, again, it's not so much about what's happening outside as it is about regulating what's happening inside. I mean, the most important thing to me, probably for the first time in my life is me, but I'm not alone. I carry energies, not even just energy. So God, it's a hard question to answer, and I have no answer for it. Ascension is the process. My exhibition is all about process and create. My art story is what I created or initiated when covid hit. I think my ascension is about creating my art story,
Georgia (05:25):
And in doing that, I invite others to create theirs or unearth it, because everybody has an art story in that. Whether it's an uncle that used to play his guitar at night in his room, and you used to listen from your room. The art story is there in bits and pieces as we go through. So the gathering of pebbles that you're talking about from my point of view is continuing to gather my story in different ways. The arts, you see it. That's my ascension. What's the ultimate then? Well, ascension is something that is continually moving, isn't it? It's always
Lezley (06:13):
Rising.
Georgia (06:14):
Yeah. If I flip that on you, how would you,
Lezley (06:22):
Oh, really? Okay. I don't know. I don't know what it is. The only thing that I healed through though about ascension was a previous belief that I thought it meant that we let go of the body and the physical world that we ascended into pure spirit. And that was a wound that has since been healed, which is why I'm always saying, which is gallic, which means land and spirit are woven and sewn together forever. Because they don't exist apart. They don't exist separately and ascension. This idea, especially religious people or even new age people have this idea that pure spirit is better preferred, that somehow land and form is a perversion or a,
Georgia (07:17):
The belief. Is that how it's
Lezley (07:19):
Well, yeah. I mean, it's the fall of man and the suspicion of the body and the temptation of the body, especially women, especially women, sexual tempts, all of that. Just the idea of the body being less pure, somehow inferior,
Georgia (07:42):
Somehow
Lezley (07:43):
Less than, and so an ascension is a rising above into pure spirit, which I can't say without snark because I'm just, I'm so, it wounded me for years because I love this planet so much. I love this world. I just fucking love it so much, and I grieve so much because of that love. And so there's no ascension without land.
Georgia (08:11):
Well, it's the closest thing to reality that I can take in right now to hear that, listen to my voice and even a little bit of, of humbleness to think, I love the land. I love nature. I love being in it, but look at how quickly I can slight it and not slight it, but ascension has nothing to do. I wasn't even thinking of it that way, but there's parts of me that believe in, yes, ascending as spirit, but never did. I think about it as actually abandoning my body and the ground that I stand on.
Lezley (09:02):
Right. Good
Georgia (09:05):
Insight to hear that. You see, you have to say some things in order to wait
Lezley (09:11):
To recognize that that's how you feel about it. Yeah. Can I give a small piece of feedback?
Georgia (09:20):
Give more. Give more.
Lezley (09:20):
Okay. If you remember and feel inclined, can you refer to land in nature as them and not it
Georgia (09:32):
Gladly.
Lezley (09:32):
I correct myself all the time.
Georgia (09:35):
Well, if I'm not here to learn something more and take away, then fulfillment hasn't happened fully. Right? I will. I love this because now I can talk about stuff that I do.
Lezley (09:52):
I know I feel so grateful for you and for the ability that I have been able to articulate all of this stuff to you out into the world. You are such a gift for me to be able to say all these inside things out in the world.
Georgia (10:13):
What's funny about that too, it feels like we've been wanting to,
Lezley (10:18):
Well, every time you come around, I'm like, oh, do you have to go so quick? You're my favorite. Stay. Please. Just stay with me all day and we'll chat and I'll work.
Georgia (10:31):
I feel like I sometimes have felt that from you where I know she's going to have to go Anyway, so okay, see you later. Bye.
Lezley (10:41):
Well, every time I see you, when there's a moment, sometimes you're in and out. See life, busy life. But if we have even a moment, there's real connection and real presence. And what I hate about my job is that happens rarely. I'm around people all day and it's this surface fucking garbage bullshit that's boring and just it weighs on me, and it's awful. It's awful. And then I have moments like you where it's real connection and you're like, oh, want more nurture? Nurture? And don't go.
Georgia (11:25):
But this is our divine timing though, because if it's been there and shared between us without saying it, now is our time to
Lezley (11:37):
Yeah, that's true. Make it real. Make it manifest. I love you. You're so great. I had tears before. For real. I love you. I love you. That you're in my life. I love it.
Georgia (11:53):
Thank you. Remember when we were drinking cider at your place the first time we hung out? And when I think back to that now, I say people are brought in for a reason and there's never any stress with you to this day. The stress sometimes that people put on each other. You're my friend, and how come I haven't heard from you? And I was never that person.
Lezley (12:33):
Yeah, neither. I don't have friends. If you do that to me, you're like, bye bye.
Georgia (12:39):
If
Lezley (12:40):
You're like, you missed my birthday, I'm like, bye. I don't do birthdays. If I can't connect with you after six months of not talking and there's any like
Georgia (12:52):
Of that,
Lezley (12:53):
Bye bye. My friends that are like my true heart friends, no talking, no connection. I see you. It's like, oh my God, what's been happening? So happy we're doing this right now.
Georgia (13:08):
That's the sifting and sorting that I've finally doing, because
Lezley (13:13):
Shit, I've been doing that for 30 years. I just had no fucking cups for that. I'm like
Georgia (13:22):
Your energy too. And I think that you always, this might not come out the right way, but you give, oh, wait to hear this. You sort of give me permission to not give any fucks, right? Oh, yeah. And not even just in person, but when I used to read, or every so often I think I subscribe to your newsletter or something, and you would have some racy shit in there. You would say things that were under the umbrella of not giving a fuck. And it was like, yes. So I didn't have to be in front of you, but secretly that's you give me permission to not, yeah, yeah,
Lezley (14:11):
Yeah. You were giving me permission to show up and be exactly who I am.
Georgia (14:15):
Oh my God,
Lezley (14:15):
I'm giving you permission to not give a fuck.
Georgia (14:18):
Right. Reciprocity, full reciprocity. Adding that to my poem. But these are the kind of engagements that turn me on. They really do. It's life.
Lezley (14:32):
It's like why we're alive. It's why we're here is to do this real stuff. Oh God, why do I want to say anything else? Why do I want to do anything else? But
Georgia (14:45):
It becomes hard though, right? To be around other people. I'll just be straight up to be around other people. I'm going to speak from my experience who I have shown that agreeable Georgia side all the time, or I already know that I can change the energy in a room just by going into that room, but it's what I choose to, how I choose to share it with people that I'm kind of changing that now and trying to not give as much a fuck. But it's hard when you are in a certain kind of space building with people who are just, they're doing the same things they've done for dozens of years to just collect whatever little thing is at the end of the monochromatic rainbow and be okay with that. And I like what great phrase. I think that's why it's purple, because I just wanted to bring that, let's bring some life into this. Yeah, no, I love it. Right?
Lezley (15:54):
So great
Georgia (15:54):
Taking the time to pay attention to me and my behaviors and ways, and not even about what's acceptable out there, but I realized that not everyone is going to see what you see, feel the same intensity that you feel, aside from the fact that I'm a Cancerian, but you have to be able to see and feel all those things for yourself. And so this idea of partnership and sharing your, I don't want to call it gifts, your magicalness with someone else is so off the radar for me. Not that I'm not interested in a partner, but there's got to be this real spiritual intensity is the only way I can put it right now. I get what I'm saying, and I have no point in bringing this up, but it is about just minimizing all these things and just staying in the simplest place I can and the strongest place I can right now and build from there. And then no need to chase it then becomes attraction,
Lezley (17:28):
Right?
Georgia (17:29):
Yeah. It then becomes attraction, and that's kind of wild. Yeah. I don't know why I brought that up, but it's okay. It's my reality, actually. And
Lezley (17:44):
Is this important to you right now? Are you desiring a partner that's on your
Georgia (17:49):
Level? I guess that's the realization that for years, if somebody would've told me, Georgia, just keep developing yourself because you're not going to find anybody who gets you. And that's a simple way of putting it. It's more aligns with me. They don't have to be a carbon copy of me, but there's an alignment that has to happen that I desire to happen. Am I hungry for it now? No, celibate since 2022. So I think that's a powerful state to be in personally.
Lezley (18:27):
Yeah.
Georgia (18:27):
Yeah,
Lezley (18:28):
It is. I spent a lot of my thirties, single, most of my thirties was single until I met Keith.
Georgia (18:35):
Yeah. Changed.
Lezley (18:38):
If I had known, we both said this, if we had known that we were going to meet one another, we wouldn't have put up with all the bullshit that we did, but we didn't know, and we thought, well, maybe this is the best that I'm going to get. Maybe I'll make this okay. Even though it was awful.
Georgia (18:59):
Yeah. Yeah. That's another truth, right? That's another truth that you touch on. And why is it coming up for me now? Well, maybe I'm still in the energy of Valentine's Day, whatever that is, and whatever. I'm more interested in the fact that we just had a full moon. The snow moon just passed on the 12th or the 13th, and thinking about my manifestations from that point of view, because the moon is beautiful. The moon is, that's my partner. That's my partner.
Lezley (19:46):
I love that.
Georgia (19:49):
You can keep all that in. Yeah. Well, where are we at? 1228. Let's go for two more minutes, and then I'm going to go eat something.
Lezley (19:57):
Okay? Okay. What do you have in mind? What would you like to see happen here? I'm still going to do the podcast as I do it, the talking head, me saying my stuff. I would like to talk with you again, and if you want to do something together where we invite other people on to talk, I think that's amazing. Your vibe is right on our vibe here is
Georgia (20:24):
Yeah. Lit.
Lezley (20:27):
Yeah. It's great. And I would love to bring on people who can add and teach and share their with us. I want to know what do you know?
Georgia (20:43):
Yeah. Just the same way you came in yet, I wonder what, I wonder what I'm going to learn. I wonder
Lezley (20:47):
What,
Georgia (20:47):
So even that is a great place to start this new school, right? I wonder what,
Lezley (20:55):
That's a great name. We can call it. I wonder what.
Georgia (20:58):
Yeah, write it down. So I think just to throw something out there that looks like structure, so not structured, if we did two more fulsome things like this to get, not our rhythm, but just to get familiar in this space.
Lezley (21:20):
Okay. So just you and I first. You say, so you want two more? Just you and I.
Georgia (21:25):
One more. Two more.
Lezley (21:27):
Okay.
Georgia (21:27):
I feel like maybe you have somebody in mind that you think would fit the new
Lezley (21:37):
Well, I'd like to go with your suggestion with the finding Avalon lady. What's her name?
Georgia (21:43):
Jenna. Jenna. Barnable.
Lezley (21:46):
Jenna.
Georgia (21:47):
Yeah. But Jenna. Jenna, I call her.
Lezley (21:52):
Yeah. I'd like to go with that. I'd also be interested to know, because you and I could also do just us if we have something in particular we want to explore, or I've been looking for someone to be a public broadcaster with, to be spiritual leaders so that we can talk together about whatever, what is
Georgia (22:18):
Going on. Yeah. Whatever we want,
Lezley (22:20):
Whatever we want, whatever's going on. And even like, Hey, I want to dig into this, and maybe it'll take us three times to come together to cover what we want to cover. I don't know what's going to happen, but I like what's happening here. And I've been wanting, remember I told you last year sometime I'm like, oh, I'm going to do a podcast with this indigenous, I remember all of it. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. And you were so excited. Which makes me think, huh? Because that didn't work out. Okay.
Georgia (22:51):
You want consistency,
Lezley (22:54):
But whatever that means. It could be once a month, maybe then it's two times a month, or maybe we miss a month, and then it's like our friendship. The podcast can be like our friendship.
Georgia (23:05):
I wonder what Lezley's been doing for the past 60 days.
Lezley (23:10):
Right, exactly. Yeah. Let's check in. Hey, do you have some, Hey, I've got something in mind. We haven't talked in three.
Georgia (23:16):
That is innovative actually, because we're in a world where every automation, it's Okay, we'll get you the answers just like this. Oh, no.
Lezley (23:26):
Post every week. Post on the same day post on the same time. And I'm just like, oh, fuck. That feels yuck. No chores. No chores. Georgia. No chores. No chores. No homework. No homework.
Georgia (23:40):
Unless
Lezley (23:41):
It's homework I want to do, unless I'm like, yeah,
Georgia (23:43):
Let me look that up. You are very, this is what I love. You read energy really well, and you mirror mine unbeknownst to you maybe, maybe known to you, but I kind of dig that, and I think we're already shaping it. We're already shaping it.
Lezley (24:05):
Yeah. Yeah.
Georgia (24:06):
So what should I do? Should I talk to Jenna? I know she just podcast. She would love it. If you
Lezley (24:14):
Well, that would be great. Then we can promote her podcast on what we're doing.
Georgia (24:19):
Yeah. And she wants me to be on it.
Lezley (24:22):
Okay, great. We can be all incestual with our podcast. That's what I'm saying. I can't believe I used that word. Did you just say that? I know. Block that off,
Georgia (24:33):
Lezley. Okay. You see though how important expression is and we have it. Yes. So this is the new school. Alright. Yeah. We'll start with Jenna and we'll figure out when next we will come together.
Lezley (24:54):
Okay. Someone else I'd like to bring on is Christina Lezley. I'm Oh fuck, right? Yes, yes. Yeah, she's amazing. I'm seeing her Friday, actually, so I'll bring this up to her. That makes
Georgia (25:08):
So much sense actually.
Lezley (25:10):
Yes. Yes. Have you seen her exhibit? I'm going on Friday. Was it good? Yeah. Oh, it's, did you go to the opening?
Georgia (25:20):
Pardon?
Lezley (25:21):
Did you go to the opening?
Georgia (25:23):
I did go to the opening.
Lezley (25:24):
Nice.
Georgia (25:25):
I did go to the curator's. Oh, you did tour? I did go to the artist talk, yes.
Lezley (25:30):
Okay. And every single one of those was scheduled on a day that I had to work. And I was like, what the fuck? What the fuck? And she like, no, no. We're going see her show together on Friday, and then we're going to go have lunch. I'm excited
Georgia (25:50):
About that. I love her. I love her work. I love her too. Love where she's is ascending. She
Lezley (25:56):
Is ascending,
Georgia (25:58):
I tell
Lezley (25:58):
You. Yes. She's going from strength to strength to strength.
Georgia (26:02):
Yep. It feels like this Makes sense. This makes sense.
Lezley (26:07):
Yes. Yep. Yep, yep, yep.
Georgia (26:10):
Okay. 1235. 1, 2, 3, 5. We are out. Okay. Lezley, love yourself hard today.
Lezley (26:20):
This has been awesome. Thank you.
Georgia (26:22):
This has been amazing, and
Lezley (26:24):
I'm so glad we talked about it again, and I didn't just, I literally deleted it. No, I'm not going to contact her. She's not in,
Georgia (26:31):
You told me. Yeah, you told me, but I'm not going to. It's the same thing that you think about, oh, most people aren't going to get it, or they're going to give me pushback or whatever. Right. I've been walking in a different place. You remember that time I came in and I said to you, something's happening.
Lezley (26:48):
Yes,
Georgia (26:50):
Something's happening to me, but what I care about and what I don't care about anymore and what I want to focus on. So we're on track. We're on track. Thank you too much, Lezley. I love you.
Lezley (27:01):
Thank you. I
Georgia (27:01):
Love you too. Okay. Enjoy the day.
Lezley (27:06):
Yeah, thanks. You too. This has been great. Yay. Yay us.
Georgia (27:10):
Yay us. We're doing the work.
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What does “Ascension” mean to you? How can we be in Reciprocity of Being? What do aligned relationships look like? Georgia and I dig deep into the life questions and make plans to explore further in “I Wonder What…?”