31. Śivani talks about yoga... and so much more
31. Śivani talks about Yoga and so much more…
In all honesty, I am still integrating the download of information Śivani shared in our hour and a half together (split into probably 3 episodes).
Śivani launched a deep dive into Yoga principles and we talked about healing and clearing chakras and mudras, yantras, mandalas… there is a LOT.
Śivani is a a Medium, Intuitive Artist, and Sannyasin on the Yogic path. You can find out more at her website the links below:
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Transcript
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Lezley (00:16):
Hi folks. Welcome to the Beloved President's podcast. This is Lezley Davidson, and I am your High
Priestess of Holy Sh!t, <laugh>.
Okay, so today we're doing something all over a little bit differently. I'm chatting with, uh, Śivani from SolaceandShine.ca. Śivani is a medium and intuitive artist, a Sannyasin on the yogic path. She, uh, has an ashram in BC in the Purcell Mountains and,
um, she's gonna talk with us today about, um, well, eventually we get to yoga ecology, but not in this
episode. <laugh>. Today. We talk about a lot of stuff, and it's, um, it's a good time. Uh, I hope you enjoy
it.
Lezley (01:06):
Listening to your podcast is bringing me back to, like, back in my early twenties, my initial first like
mystical revelation of oneness. And all of the stuff that came in at that time, like your podcasts were
just, it's like resparking. That, that, oh, it's all real. Do you know what I mean? Like, bringing it back to
that? Yeah. Yeah. It was just, it was really beautiful. There was a lot of stuff that, and, and I got triggered
by something you said. Oh, <laugh>.
Śivani:
Oh, good <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. Never, never a good day without a
good trigger. <laugh>.
Lezley:
All right. Hooray. Triggering. Um, yeah, you said, oh, you know, when people say I
am God, that's a red flag. And I was like, oh, fuck. Like, yeah, I say that. I have said that. I think I said that
recently, but like, I understand, I understand that.
Lezley (01:59):
I, like, I get it because it's not a comfortable place to be in. We are, God is like the next bigger truth, but
it also made me reflect on what that meant for me in my life and how important it was for me. Back in
the same time, in my early twenties, there was this, um, campaign in Canada by the Molsen, Canadian
Brewery Company that was the, I am Canadian, right. Bringing it. And so I am was this huge, another
revelation in my life. It was a statement of beingness that I had never had before in my life to say, I am, I
exist. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, I am. And the next step to that was, oh, I am also God cuz in
Christianity in the West, like, you're not <laugh>. Like, you're not at all. You know? So like, that is a
definite step.
Lezley (02:53):
But I was, I was totally like, oh, no. Like I'm triggered that she would think that something that I did was
a red flag. <laugh>. So there's been a lot of, like, there's, oh, there's been a lot of, of, I don't know. Um,
there's just been a lot of like, oh, I'm coming into community with a woman who has been practicing a
spiritual path for a long time, and I had a lot of like, insecurity about that. Right. Do you know what I
mean? Yeah. Yeah.
Śivani:
Aw, <laugh>, do you want me, do you want me to speak to, do you
want me to speak to that languaging a little bit? To, to give context a little bit more? Would, would that
be helpful?
Lezley (03:39):
No. Like I, if you want, if you feel guided to do that For sure. I feel like it's just all my own stuff around
my insecurity walking a path. And, and this is all very new to me within the last two years of, of
accepting my, my wisdom as real and shareable and authentic, which is beautiful and well, yeah. And
I've always, like, I'm, I'm grappling as well with the fact that I'm not part of an organized religion. Like
there's no, um, there's no like, established background lineage that I belong to mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
but I also belong to, like, I'm reconnecting to the Celtic part of it, which is mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh,
giving me belonging. So, I mean, there's a lot going on here, right. <laugh> for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, in terms of my growth and the things that I'm learning about myself.
Lezley (04:35):
And so thank you for, for being You're welcome, welcome to my, to my triggers. Well, your story about,
um, going to the ashram the first time and having that experience with that guy who like came with a lot
of questions and had a lot of things to say about you and how you realized like, no, like, you know your
truth and you know, what, what, what is real and what has happened. And your guru would know as
well, and that you could say that.
Śivani:
Yeah. If he was legit, you know, if he, if he, sure, if the guru dude was,
was legit, then he would know, like, right. And yeah, that was, and, and so of course it's like, it's not that
I believe some old man would believe me. That's, that's, that's what the west looks at it and sees. Yeah.
But it's not, it's that if, if at the essence I knew that the truth God love, the, the higher self would know
the truth of my intentions and my heart, and that, then that's, that's what I would need it. -
Śivani (05:45):
And that was really the first experience of trusting myself. Yes. You know, you project it, you project it
onto the outside, but I'm not projecting it onto, uh, a human being that was, um, going to project it
back. I was projecting it onto a human being that had dissolved so much of the individual consciousness
himself that he wouldn't, he wouldn't even, you know, consider the, that understanding. So it was, it
was literally like taking that self-knowledge and throwing it through a portal right. Into the heart of the
universe going well, right. Yeah. Yeah. And knowing that the larger that was the beginning would know
you.
Lezley:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I, I know I like, I resonated with that really strongly and felt also very, um,
like a lot of gratitude that you had, um, you had allowed yourself to be vulnerable and share a lot of,
like, you've shared a lot of yourself in your podcast.
Lezley (06:44):
There's a lot of, of you and your, and your stories. And like, that was like, to realize this <laugh> No, no,
but it's great. Like, it actually, like, it was, it was so perfect for me to feel like, oh, okay, like, this is a safe
space. Like there's not gonna be judgment here. And that's really what, you know, that's what I was
worried about, is like, oh, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be spiritually judged for being inferior, and I know
that that's my own stuff. Yeah. Like, I, like I know that, I know that. Um, but your sense of self there in
your podcast was very like, oh, no, that's, that is mine. That's my own, my own fear and my own stuff.
And, and, and Śivani is safe here, so like relax <laugh>. So there's been a lot going on in my life.
<laugh>.
Śivani (07:34):
You've been a very intense couple of weeks, so I'm really not like, you're right. You're right there with
us. It's like, the last couple of weeks has been very intense. Um, they re reorientating Yeah. On the
inside for me also, so, you know, but this is, this is why we came. This is the deliciousness.
Lezley:
Yes, yes.
Exactly. Exactly. When I can remember that and not, you know, be overwhelmed in just the things that
are happening. Um, I, uh, I'm really interested to hear about, uh, yoga ecology and Yeah. Like, that's
yoga. Yeah.
Śivani:
Yoga ecology is so something like in the West, it's like very new, of course, in, in the ancient
texts. And that it's, it's fundamental. It's just that the west has been so obsessed with standing on its
head that it's, it's only just starting to wake up to, to realize that yoga is not an exercise regime, but a an
orientation to life. It is non-denominational and, and polytheistic, you know, yoga
is, is polytheistic. Even tantra and vita are polytheistic philosophies. They don't have a God and they
don't even have a Hindu. Right. They are the philosophy behind the one. And you can project onto
whichever one you want it to be. It's, it's not, it's not a recruiting system.
Lezley:
I didn't, I didn't realize that. I thought it was strictly part of, of a Hindu spiritual practice.
Śivani:
So the way that I relate and understand to it,
and the way I have been taught is that ante and tanta are the, the two main philosophies that yoga is
the scientific practices and sort of like the practical aspect of preparing the human self for experiences
embedded in the philosophies outta those philosophies is born. Uh, the, the people experiencing those
philosophies is born Buddhism is born Hinduism.
Śivani (09:51):
Um, now the, the, the gods, the Hindu gods are actually the mandalas of light that are connected to the
tantric, um, the, the tantric philosophies. So in tantra, born out of tanti and trik to expand and liberate
consciousness, that's what tantra means. It's not about taking your clothes off or sex or, or these or
anything like that. Like, nope. Uh, you know, it's expand and liberate consciousness. And in that
philosophy to do that process, we relate to frequencies on three different ways. Mantra; sound, yantra; the visual geometric shapes like the Sri Yatra, which are actually three dimensional, but we
experience them two dimensionally, and we draw them two dimensionally and Mandela as the form.
And so all the Hindu gods, all of their symbol of what they're holding and the positions they are, and the
colour of their skin, and the colour of their clothes and everything like that, are all like a recipe of the
subconscious mind to be hit to the specific archetypal frequencies of the soul relating to itself. -
Śivani (11:11):
So the Hindu gods are actually these mandala, these three-dimensional forms of light that are like a
symphony playing inside of us on a resonant level. And so when we bow down to those Hindu gods,
we're actually taking the ego and putting it to the side so that the higher self can relate directly to the
experience of embodied divinity. Okay. On a calibration level. Yes. So then Hinduism, sorry, Inma, the
brah, the Brahmans of Hinduism are like, okay, well this has to be kept very, very sacred and very, very
pristine and very, very person. And so we're gonna create a whole bunch of rules around it and call that
Hinduism. Okay. But if you go beyond Hinduism, it's actually Yeah, that makes Jesus sense. All Jesus,
Jesus was a guru, as I wrote in my book, the Yoga of Remembrance. Jesus was a guru. He was an
embodiment of the divine light on earth setting the example of what was possible.
Lezley (12:13):
Right. And not a separate unattainable gate kept. Yeah. That's, that's much more that makes <laugh>
Śivani:
Oh yeah, no, it totally, you know. No, that's much more the patriarchy. That's the religious power over
governmental, you know? Yeah. You have to go through me. You do not have sovereignty. The sovereign
is the queen, queen, sovereign is the king. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have sovereignty. There is no
separation between you and the divine. And when you mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like my experience of
actually stepping into a lineage and having a guru is, the guru has no interest in being, being between
you and God. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> the guru is nothing but like a transmitter that is sitting there
vibrating at this is what embodied divinity feels like. Now. You calibrate to it right inside of yourself so
that you can experience the divinity inside of yourself without having to go through me.
Śivani (13:13):
This is not a co-dependent thing. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Which is very different to what the West thinks it is.
It's not at all like, it's completely different. Yeah. Well the west is very like hierarchical, so there's always
gotta be someone on top, you know? Yeah. Like pointing exactly down and telling you instead of us
coming together and Oh, coming up together. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So that's, I think where that's so
exhausting. In the podcast when I said, you know, people who say I am God, or I am humble, or I am
enlightened, it's a red flag. Because if they're speaking in the context to the context, not even if they are
embodying it, but if they are speaking to the people that are still in the bandwidth of seeing things only
through a hierarchy, hierarchy like the Western man does, then that statement, whether it's true or not
to speak that statement to that audience is to create separation.
Lezley (14:12):
Right. Right. I is separate from we.
Śivani:
Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And so the people that are, are embodied
their divinity do not need to say it. And, and then when you are with a group that is of a different
bandwidth, where they're not in that hierarchy bandwidth, and you say, I am God or divinity is within
me, or we are God because it's, it's being heard through the ears without the hierarchy. It's a completely
different statement. So it's not just about who's saying it, but who are they saying it to?
Lezley:
Do you not think that it's also valuable to say we are God, even to people who are still in a hierarchy mindset, just
from the point of view of constant reference to the “wholiness”, like the whole.
Śivani:
Yeah. Is to say we are God.Yeah. To say we are to say we're God. Absolutely. To say I am God, while technically Correct. Because
they can't see beyond the eye. Exactly. They're gonna see it as you are God.
Lezley:
Right. And with the possibility of putting, putting that as above and to be followed and like all of that pedastal stuff.
Śivani:
Yeah. Reverend stuff. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. And those with the, those with the
resonances capable of holding that space, don't say it. Right. They say we. It's never been a comfortable
thing to say. They say you, they say you are God. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Say I am God. -
Śivani: (15:49):
You know, they're saying you are God. If they want the person to plant the seed that they are God,
they would not say, I am God. They would say, you are God. Right. Because that's planting the seed in
that person. In them.
Lezley:
Okay. Because you don't need to say it for your own benefit.
Śivani:
<laugh> no <laugh>.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's like when people say, I am humble, you're like, are you, are you
though? If you had to, if you have to say you're humble, yeah. Then you, I'm humblest person you'll ever
meet <laugh>. I'm, I'm the best humble I am. Like, totally.
Śivani: (16:34):
That's super funny. That's super funny. But that's the Lila of the, the play, jovialness of this human
creation. It's pretty funny when you are, when you start to step back from it and see all the pieces
playing out and all of this symphony going on inside of you. And the horns are a little bit off some days,
and the flutes are like a little bit. And some days like it's, it is angels singing. And other days it's, dear
God, cause we get past the tuning. You know? And it's just, it's funny. It is funny.
Lezley:
And the universe has the best sense of humor. Like the, like, you know, when it, the thing happens and you're like, of course
it's that exact thing. Of course it is, yeah, I know. And you laugh <laugh>. Yeah, yeah. This is of course.
Śivani:
And, and that realization to me, that realization in itself is what I vow to that is that realization of seeing
the universe is Lila.
Śivani (17:34):
Like that is to me another form of God. It's, it's, it's what I Oh, spoiled bow to. Yeah.
Lezley:
Well it's, it's all, it's all God. Right? It's all God <laugh>.
Śivani:
Literally, literally, literally, literally literal, literally, literally <laugh>.
It's all God.
Lezley:
It's all God. Yeah. That's great. So how, how using yoga, um, ecology, can we move this idea
of it's all God like into the world more, especially in relationship to trees and nature? Cuz this is breaking
my heart. Like, like, I think, you know what I'm saying? When like Yeah. Like it's, it's getting harder and
harder to, to not feel that Yeah. All the time. Like it's mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's a deep grief. It's like
my, my biggest grief actually. Yeah.
Śivani:
Yeah. I mean, yoga ecology is about, so yo meaning, um, union mmhmm.
<affirmative> and ecology being in relationship to earth or to Gaia.
Śivani: (18:49):
So yoga ecology is about, once again, becoming one with the land and to have a relation to consider, to
have a relationship with, to consider the land of where you reside and where you have come from and
where your ancestry has come from and where you sleep at night to be a part of the family, to be a
relation. Yeah. And to remember to bring that conversation back in reciprocity, in, you know, taking it
out of rights and bringing it into responsibility. And, you know, this is where the work of Robin Wall
Kimmer is absolutely phenomenal with, um, Braiding Sweetgrass. And this is where, um, Tom Brown Jr.
With Grandfather again, absolutely phenomenal because there are these capsules of remembrance of
like, oh, you know, we are part of not on, you know, the land, even even the work of, um, Jacqueline
Freeman, I think, hold on, I have it right here.
Śivani: (19:58):
Jacqueline. Yeah. Jacqueline Freeman, um, with her book song of Increase. Oh my God. You're going to
love it. Because it really is bringing the yoga ecology of the honey beehive into a direct parable of what
humans are capable of as a collective consciousness. Yeah. And how if we can recalibrate to the hive
mentality, if we can recalibrate to living with nature like the bees live with within nature, we can actually
come back into that resonance.
Now, fun fact, the human heart on the esophageal scale resonates at
approximately 4 32 hertz. Um, that is very much the foundation of the heart's frequency and the honey
beehive, uh, a healthy, happy hive will resonate just over 400 hertz. Hmm. So the frequency of the
honey bee hive, when it's healthy and strong, actually resonates at the foundation of the fifth
dimension of the human heart.
Lezley:
So that's the fifth dimension that you're talking about when you say fifth dimension all the time. -
Śivani (21:08):
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, because, so, so the uni, our universe is the fifth dimension, but we've been under sort
of a shield of Maya, Maya of, of delusion that's anchored us into a very polarized perspective. But the
foundation of the fifth, and that the fifth dimension is the entire thing, but the resonance goes from one
through to high 12. And then when in every bandwidth from one to 12, there is minor scales of like, so
you can be fourth density, you know, the lower half of fourth density or the higher half of fourth
density, the lower half of fifth density, the higher, and it changes reality with every calibration of
density. But the dimension is the fifth is the fifth dimension. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Is the fifth dimension.
And fun fact, the yoga has something called brahmari and brahmari is the humming bee breath, which is considered
the healing breath.
Śivani: (22:10):
Interesting. And that is what, uh, the heart resonates at, is Brahmari, the humming bee breath. Yeah. That
makes sense.
Lezley:
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I see us as a, like, as a globe, as a society, as evolving into or
through the hard chakra right now. It's why it's so difficult mm-hmm. <affirmative>, do you know what I
mean? Yeah. Because you have to feel it. Like you, we can't heal it until we feel it. Yeah. So, well, a lot,
everyone's just trying not to feel it <laugh>. Exactly. You know what I mean?
Śivani:
But that's, that's the thing.
Everybody's trying to fill a glass. So if you look at your spinal column from the root chakra through the
portal of Svadhishthana, that's where the babies come through. Right. The uterus to Manipura which is the lower
mind. Then you have the diaphragm, which is actually your dimensional divide. Then the foundation of
the fifth is the heart, which is actually the higher mind to get from the lower mind to the higher mind.
Śivani: (23:07):
You have to surrender now to anybody in the paradigm of the third dimension to surrender is to
become weak or to lose. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But that's a power over technique. That's a, that's
the, um, propaganda. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> that we've been fed, that I bought into for many years.
Don't get me wrong. In fact, my teacher wrote a birthday card once that said, Śivani, uh, surrender is
not a four letter word. Uh, <laugh>. Cause every time she mentioned surrender, like my skin would
crawl, going No way, man. Not me. Uh, and so then this brings us into the portal of, uh, Vishuddha, which
is the throat. So what's happening in the throat is mirrored in Svadhishthana and the sexual nature of the human
experience. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So right now everybody's trying to come into love and
interconnectivity and all of that beauty, but they're trying to fill a glass from halfway up the glass mmhmm.
Śivani (24:04):
<affirmative>. And when the work is not done in those lower three frequencies of fear, guilt, desire, like
likes and dislikes, and control, shame, anger, power over, if those are not purified to pure water, then
when you start filling the glass into the heart, you're just gonna end up with mud and attachment and
grief. Yeah. Yeah. So, while it's important to keep our eye on the prize of coming into a cohesive,
interconnected experience of love, as a, as a, as a community, have to understand that, to do that, first
we have to find the sovereignty, come out of victim mentality and come out of fear. Because the only
thing that, that blooms fear, fear flowers is the seeds of fear. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So when you're
no longer afraid, the heart can open.
Lezley:
I’ve recently discovered for myself that I've been an angry person most of my life.
But anger was a coverup for the fear. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, because I felt safer in anger
cuz it feltmore powerful. It felt more safe like I could fight against. Yes. And now I don't, I don't have that, that
armor of angry self-righteousness anymore. And now when it comes, it's just fear, which is on one hand
great, because I'm recognizing it for what it is. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, but yeah, on the other
hand, it's still fear. So that's always fun. Yeah. <laugh>.
Śivani:
So, so when, when we wanna come out of the
shadow of chakra and into the, the highest expression of that chakra, [inaudible] means root. So it is the
foundation. If you don't water the roots, you won't grow the rest of the tree. And so when we wanna
come out of fear, we have to redirect cuz it's just energy. The mind says it's fear, but it's just an
amplification of the energy and that aspect of the consciousness.
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Śivani: (26:06):
When we wanna come out of fear, we have to come into trust. Now as Catholics, recovering Catholics,
you know, Christians, we're, we're taught that we have to trust the priest. We have to trust our parents,
we have to trust, you know, the government. We have to, so everything we've been conditioned to trust
one has proven they're not really worthy of that trust. They're not actually as safe as we thought they
were. And so we need to redirect that essence of trust to an aspect of divinity. Now that can be Jesus,
but it has to be an aspect of divinity that is attainable. It cannot come from this. It is so above me and,
and and beyond me. This is why I personally love the, the, the tantric forms of mandolas of what most
people call Hindu gods of Ganesha and Durga and Shiva. And that because one, there's many of them.
Śivani: (27:02):
So you can like, you know, connect to which one, but they, they hold the essence of what it is to
embody the opposite of that shadow. And can, you can calibrate to it using the mantra, the frequency of
that mandala of that God. So you, for fear, you would chant to Ganesha because the frequencies of Ganesha are
actually in full trust, even beyond death. And that is the mythology of Ganesha. So when we seed our faith
into something beyond this world, beyond this human of the experience, then whether we live or
whether we die, it does not matter. Our faith is unwavering. Right. Then nothing can stop you. Right.
Yeah, yeah. No, no. That's So what do you trust? What form, what form is so beautiful? Like for me,
because my name is Śivani, Shiva being fearless. Śivani is another name for Durga, which is the fearless
mother because I have a lot of anxiety.
Śivani: (28:09):
So I really gotta work at trusting. So, you know, I got the 32 names of Durga, uh, as an offering. Wow. To,
to be like, no, this lifetime is so divine mother, the left side of the body, we're going fearless. You know,
but you have to be able to chant it. And in fact, I asked the tattoo artist to learn how to chant it before I
would let her put it on me. Cause I wanted her to be in the residence of the, you know, so because it's,
it's all physics, all resonance. Yeah. Yeah. That's really neat. Hmm. Hmm.
Lezley:
It's interesting how a different
language, um, helps to readjust your, your mind to something that you're not quite understanding. It's
beyond like your mind to like filter it and say, oh, I get it, or I know it. You know what I mean? It's, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Śivani (29:11):
Well Sanskrit is not a, it's not a, um, intellectual. I mean it's, it's, it's intellectual but it's, it's not an
intellectual language. It's a language of light. It's light language. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> because it's
just purely resonant. It's not saying Durga is this and Durga is that. And when you're like, I believe that, I
believe that it's not about what you believe, it's what you can feel, just like you said at the beginning of
our discussion. Right. Interest. You have to be able to feel it. And when you chant mantras, you can feel
them. Even if you can't chant them, if you just listen to them, you can feel your body start to calibrate in
this frequency of light that the man is holding.
Lezley:
Interesting. I'm learning my, it's very beautiful. My Celtic
It is very beautiful. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, the Celtic reconnecting has brought me to Gaelic,
which is interesting cuz the Irish, the Irish feel that that, um, Irish and, and Gaelic is magic.
Lezley (30:06):
It's a manifestation language. Yeah. Yes. And I'm getting that like the book, um, Speaking for the Trees
from Diana Bereford-Kroger. Yeah. Well it's brought me
from Irish to Gaelic cuz I'm both Irish. Right. Well you would know too. Um, yes. Yeah. But that it's
having a resonance in me that I don't really understand in my mind and I'm okay with that. Just saying
Śivani:the words, um, brings connection to, uh, physical embodiment of Yeah. Spirituality. So Yeah. And you
just gotta follow those breadcrumbs because they're absolutely delicious breadcrumbs. Yes. It's
breadcrumbs <laugh>.
Lezley:
Right. Love that. Yeah. Yeah.
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Śivani is a a Medium, Intuitive Artist, and Sannyasin on the Yogic path. You can find out more at her website the links below: